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Re: Educational standards: USA/Europe/College+ by JohnnyG on 2004-02-08 12:29:55

Kid, I'm sure I meant well by this question. In viewing the time stamp of this entry and the tranquilized condition of my brain at the point of it's submission, I'm clearly pleased you find anything sensical and meaningful in it. The fact you derived some level of understanding from it and responded the way you did is satisfying. I mean never mind the third sentence in my paragraph Kid, just look at the first sentence, "surprisingly" weak. Yes, I suppose I was seeking some sort of assessment of general academic focus from which I might do a bit of comparing & contrasting between my American Uni experience and your experience in the UK. That definitely seems to be the mark I was aiming for last night. Also, it apperars, I was inquiring as to the bang you get for your Sterling lb. Accountability of professors to students and a student's recourse in the face of instructor ineptitude and bias,etc... You must understand I'm pathologically driven by just this sort of curiosity. Kid, I must ask about the %ages. A "36% to pass the year"? I would like to know more please. Also contact hours per week? At UT, credit hours were used to gauge progress towards graduation. In a typical week for which I enrolled 15 credit hours in a semester I attended 3 MWF classes of 1 hour duration and 2 TTH classes of approx 1.5 to 2 hours each depending on professor stamina (not his real name). I wager you type a consistent 80wpm+ Kid. Essay writing of the magnitude you describe in the "Third Year" paragraph would seem to adequately motivate your typing skills! Thank you Kid for your candor and brilliant dialogue. I'm through typing now cause my hand is cramping.

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Re: Re: Educational standards: USA/Europe/College+ by Kid on 2004-02-10 12:39:52  |  Reply to this
  I'll tackle each one individually, I think. There'll be some overlap, but...c'est la vie.

For this question...I'll take the sterling (not 'lb' - that's a unit of weight)...though it is all under review for the next year's intake.
I paid 3300 fees a year for my 6 units. Quick maths. 6x12=72 72x2=144 3300/144=22.91 per hour of contact time. Now, if I give them the benefit of the doubt, and half that amount (thus doubling the time lecturers spend on our course) that gives me 11 an hour - at current rate, that's around $20 per hour of education.

As for the 36%...well, obviously its an average over the pieces of work, and anything less than 35% is considered a fail. I used to have the descriptions for each band. Essentially, a 35% piece of work could be submitted by a 15 year old, and shows no academic development since then. As the %s rise, so the academic level does too, until the high 80s, wherein the professors themselves would struggle to write such a piece.

I remember one band had "barely perceptible to the naked mind"...it was in a bad way.

I felt I was ripped off paying 11 an hour. A lot of my lectures were conversations that carried on, with friends, long after the lecture was finished - and thus, we could have just turned up, asked for a topic and talked amongst ourselves with a coffee, rather than in a classroom.
Re: Re: Re: Educational standards: USA/Europe/College+ by JohnnyG on 2004-02-10 22:07:25  |  Reply to this
  With various grants and scholarship proceeds I spent roughly half your expenditures for my undergraduate document. The University of Texas supplements students with the PUF fund. This system procures revenues from oil/gas leases throughout the state as well as collecting interest on alumni donations and stock/bond investment gains. This mainly assists with paying top professors a handsome wage and the happiness of the educational staff translates theoretically to inspired lectures and thorough tutorage. It also made the journey less painful for me financially.